Click to expand.Wouldn't the secessionist movement been been earlier and more pronounced as per the various 'secessionist' proposals and such after Obama was elected (both times) per OTL? Quite specifically there was a LOT of expectation that Hillary would run in 2009, and win, causing chaos and destruction of the US and world, though probably no exactly in that order by Conservatives.

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(An interesting read if you can overlook the politics is 'The Last Centurion', which pretty much encapsulates the stated fears of what they were expecting and how it would 'almost' cause the utter destruction of the US except for people like the titular character) I'd suspect that the second Clinton administration would pretty much have the conservatives ALL believing the 'end times' were upon us and all that follows. Click to expand.Not sure but they will say that this is not a guns fault. The Texas secessionist movement is a real group and with the oddity of the TL we'd have a more anti-government bent to people in the political processes.

I mean I plan attacks by UFO radicals on Area 51, Wright Patterson and the Pentagon. (Other nations would have it too just can't say every government building in the world. I bring in color to the world because the weird occupy our world. As for Ranulf if we change things we change things but final decision is Bondoc's choice. I have no problem with your things it is a lot to reply to. Wouldn't the secessionist movement been been earlier and more pronounced as per the various 'secessionist' proposals and such after Obama was elected (both times) per OTL?

Quite specifically there was a LOT of expectation that Hillary would run in 2009, and win, causing chaos and destruction of the US and world, though probably no exactly in that order by Conservatives. (An interesting read if you can overlook the politics is 'The Last Centurion', which pretty much encapsulates the stated fears of what they were expecting and how it would 'almost' cause the utter destruction of the US except for people like the titular character) I'd suspect that the second Clinton administration would pretty much have the conservatives ALL believing the 'end times' were upon us and all that follows. Here are a few PODs to show that he collective sanity gets warped further: October 12, 2012: Nick Jonas of the Jonas Brothers band admits to a sexual affair with Miley Cyrus during a interview on TMZ. Peta kota surabaya terbaru xxarxx. April 15, 2016: Actress Anne Hathaway gives birth to daughter Lauren at Cedar Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, California. June 20, 2015: Nick Jonas and Olivia Culpo are married in Los Angeles, California, amidst a huge following by the paparazzi.

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May 4, 2007: Madame Deborah Jeane Palfrey, DC brothel owner, exposes several prominent Republican leaders as clients including Senator David Vitter (R-LA) on CNN-TV, fueling concern about the Republican leadership. April 27, 2007: Senator David Vitter (R-LA) commits suicide after being exposed as part of local madame Deborah Jeane Palfrey, and receiving divorce papers from his wife in Washington D.C. February 20, 2013: Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Jesse L. Jackson Jr., is forced to resign after reports of using federal funds for personal expenses, fueling tensions in Washington D.C. July 18,2013:The Internet cartoon RWBY created by Monty Oum premiers on the internet and is a hit success.The show details the adventures of Ruby Rose,a young girl who lives on a post apocalyptic Earth,as she trains to protect what remains of Humanity from the Grimm,a strange race of entities that destroyed the modern world and created the environment that is Ruby's world. November 15,2015:Tokyo police arrest an American man after a anomynous tip leads to his arrest.Jeremiah Jackson of Lexington Kentucky was believed to be planning to bomb the Akihabara district in order to what he says'to cleanse the moral decay destroying America at it's corrupt source.' Jackson is suspected to have ties to Westboro Baptist Church.